So...Your Mom & Dad said things that "offended" you. Did you drop or disregard them ? Did you turn out O.K. ? Trump's policies worked out pretty well. I'll take some questionable quotes & "harsh" language to get back to $2.00 gas & a healthy 401k. I support Trump all the way !! How many of you can honestly say that you could withstand the constant barrage of crap he deals with daily & not lose your composure even once ? Like the quote says....GOD does not choose the perfect person...HE chooses the person perfect for the job.
I, too, love what you do, David, but think you're wrong on this, for the reasons cited by Rob and the fact McConnell has proven to be a total crook who regularly sells us out and grasps nothing of what the base (including me) wants. He hates conservatives like me, in fact, and he is a terrible\, terrible image and leader. Yes, he came through on the judges but any good Republican leader should and probably would have done the same. Meanwhile, he takes money from Republicans and uses to fight against principled Republicans in primaries so he can protect the likes of Thad Cochran and Lisa Murkowski. I'm done with corrupt Republicans like him and, yes, I do believe he's a China stooge. Trump is an unequaled disruptor and as much as I like DeSantis, I will definitely support Trump if he's in the game.
McConnell is not disturbed with the Demonrats undoing the American Revolution and destroying the nation. His war is not with them. His war is a factional one to retain power over the Republican Party. He’s perfectly capable of cracking deals with the Democrats to undermine Republican candidates from the America First faction. In fact, he most certainly did it on the 2017 special election to replace Jeff Sessions. McConnell and the GOPe spent millions of dollars slandering and smearing Judge Roy Moore and belong to install a Democrap as senator from Alabama. I forget most of my 2018 and 2020 races, but does anyone think McConnell in 2022 wants Blake Masters (R) to beat Mark Kelly (D) in Arizona? Does anybody think McConnell wants Herschel Walker to win against the extremist Democrap in Georgia? He is supporting outright Murkowski over Tshibaka in Alaska. One can be damned sure he breathed a sigh of relief when the Demoncrap candidate for the Alaska House special election beat Sarah Palin. Anyone thinks he wants Kari Lake or Mastriano to win their governor races in Arizona and Pennsylvania? The answer is that McConnell is perfectly happy for us to live under a one party state with a controlled RINO opposition party enjoying perks, wealth and status. What he cannot abide is a true conservative America First Republican Party pushing him aside.
And, by the way, there were dozens of solid constitutionalist judges that McConnell never allowed a full senate vote on. They were surely held back as a way of pressuring Trump in one way or another. When Trump left office there were over 60 judgeships with active nominees, including several appellate judges, that McConnell never called a vote for.
Dave, I love you, man. I respect your opinions, and I am an avid reader. But, I think you’re wrong on this.
The GOPe with McConnell at the head controlled all of Trump’s access to confirmations. McConnell held up in committee hundreds of nominees for months and years. For 4 years, McConnell did not allow a formal Senate recess, holding pro forma sessions every three days when the Senate was on vacation in order to prevent Trump from making recess appointments. Every single confirmation required the McConnell appointed senate committee heads to approve of and also required McConnell to schedule a senate confirmation vote on. And, every single nomination down to assistant deputy director of janitorial services at the Department of Commerce was the result of negotiation between Trump (or his team) and McConnell. McConnell controlled the access for Trump to get any of his own people confirmed. And McConnell and Ryan controlled any legislation from being brought to the floor.
When he first took office, there were two paths for Trump to tread:
1) The Bannon path of taking on the entire Republican Party head on. In 2017, this path certainly did not seem likely to get the Trump agenda passed.
2) The Rinse Penise path of attempting to get the GOPe to join forces with MAGA for the good of the country and the good of the electoral future of the GOP. The idea was that the success of the Trump agenda would convince a reluctant GOPe to essentially convert to MAGA out of the principle that supporting the strong horse is a path to future success. They didn’t need to believe ideologically in MAGA, but it did seem at that time that it would be to their political benefit.
Of course, Trump eventually chose the second path in an attempt to get the GOPe on board. This entailed appointing Elaine Chau as Secretary of Transportation. It seemed like a small price to pay to encourage McConnell to cooperate.
As it turned out, the GOPe is irredeemably corrupt. They duped Trump and all of us with constant promises to cooperate on the agenda they themselves had campaigned on.
Now, Trump is no longer under any illusion that these GOPe guys are on our team. Personally, I want the proverbial bulldog in a China shop, and I am willing to entertain boorish and offensive behavior to get such a person. I want McConnell gone from his position of obstruction, and he isn’t leaving with grace and under his own free will. Trump is taking the fight to McConnell, and it’s an important fight that the future of our country depends upon. We need an actual national Conservative party rather than the Uniparty with a controlled opposition. How do you propose we get there without upsetting a few apple carts?
DeSantis is great, but he hasn’t faced the crucible of 365/24/7/60/60 nonstop attack. He hasn’t yet been betrayed by his own party seeking to undermine the very agenda they campaigned on. If he’s the GOP candidate, I’ll happily vote for him. If Trump is the candidate, I’ll happily vote for Trump. But, I will simply NOT be voting for a GOPe approved candidate no matter how urbane his manners are.
Sorry, at some point we all have to stop excusing this childish, juvenile, frankly stupid behavior. At some point we all have to hold Trump responsible for all the thousands of horrible personnel decisions he made. No one else made them. He made them
Trump, no one else, elevated Anthony Fauci to the high priest of COVID. Not Biden, Trump.
Trump, no one else, signed those multi-trillion dollar COVID bills. No one forged his signature. Trump has zero room to criticize McConnell or anyone else for spending too much money.
Trump, no one else, holds regular interviews with enemies of the people like Maggie Hagerman and Bob Woodward, because he craves the attention. He's pathological in this regard.
Trump, no one else, appointed Christopher Wray to head the FBI.
Trump, no one else, appointed Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr to be Attorney General.
Trump, no one else, did all those things and so many more.
Again, he was, despite all of those thousands of unforced errors, still a vastly better option than Hillary Clinton.
But he is not a better option than Ron DeSantis. Not at all. And he's also going to be as old in 2024 as Biden was when he was sort of elected in 2020.
He's too old and too juvenile, and too prone to shooting himself in his own damn foot for me to support again. Sorry.
Dave, you more than most people should know that Wray was foisted on Trump. You must surely remember the hysterical atmosphere in 2017 when Trump fired Comey and half of the GOPe senate would have been on board with voting to remove Trump from office should they GOPe House decide to impeach him. Surely, you remember the public statements of several Judiciary Committee senators that Trump will NOT get to place his own man at the head of the FBI. Wray was McConnell’s man through and through before Trump or any of us quite realized how fully committed McConnell was to sabotaging the America First agenda.
I don’t know about you, but I was originally ecstatic that Trump had chosen Sessions, who seemed a top America First senator, as Attorney General. His subsequent betrayal of Trump (and us) didn’t take long to manifest itself as he recused himself from running his own department. At the time, several Senate Judiciary Committee members publicly stated that they would NOT be confirming any new Attorney General that year should Trump fire Sessions.
I don’t remember how you felt about it at the time, but I remember swallowing the cock and bull story about Barr’s integrity, and how he was going to get to the bottom of the Spygate scandal. That illusion lasted for quite some time before I lost faith.
There are a lot of snakes on our midst. It’s frequently hard to distinguish them in advance. DeSantis would chose some Deep State slime bags, too, because there are just so many of them around.
Of course Trump made numerous errors. Pushing that damned vaxx is the worst of them. Not preparing fully for the expected election fraud is another.
Trump absolutely does have standing to criticize McConnell. Because, while Trump may make errors, he has America’s interests at heart. McConnell does not. He is a schemer. He schemes with the media, with the Democrats, with the RINOs, with Big Business and occasionally with the CCP to keep his RINO faction in charge of the Republican Party. He most certainly does not have our interests at heart.
I like Trump because warts and all he is unequivocally on our side. He might make mistakes, even big mistakes. But they are not deliberate. He’s authentic. What you see is what you get. His biggest downside for 2024 is his age. He is full of vigor now, but if he is elected, on his 4th year in office he will be 82 years old. He likely will not have the same vigor by then.
DeSantis is a great governor. He is serving as a role model for other Red states. In our current situation, I would not underestimate the need for defiant state government.
As a newcomer, Trump had arrayed against him all the world media, the Deep State, even his own party. The fire was turned on him to a level never seen before in history. Even so, he was remarkably effective on many fronts. Should DeSantis win election as president in 2024, he will be forced into the crucible of fire. He will also make errors.
Finally, none of us realized before Trump just how corrupt the Deep State and all the institutions actually are. Trump has the effect of making them reveal themselves to us. They have tipped their hand now, and that allows many of us to see clearly and fight back. If that were all that Trump accomplished, then that would already be a great thing.
Trump, the naive, non-politician did indeed make mistakes, but his message is more important than ever. I hope he has the good sense to back off and let DeSantis carry the MAGA torch.
I hope DeSantis does NOT run, keep him as our governor. Your are just being ridiculously jealous. So if he does not run, then what you not going to support Trump?
Everyone he appointed was on the advice of Washington insiders and being a political novice, he listened to them. He told Hannnity that next time around he won’t do that. Using the slur however is another thing, the usual unforced error giving ammo to his enemies to use against him.
Trying to excuse all of Trump's horrible appointments as being someone else's fault is just extremely tiresome and I don't really have time or patience to entertain that line of reasoning.
This guy makes more unforced errors than 42 year-old Jimmy Connors.
I'm curious--which part of this statement of Trump's was false? And do you really believe he knew the extent of Chao's CCP connections when he nominated her? Do you believe McConnell has America's interests first & foremost or does he only care about saving the establishment? Do you not believe that Trump has exposed the filthy undergrowth in DC? or would you prefer he not do so?
I respectfully ask you to reconsider your decision to not vote for Trump if he is the Republican nominee.
I have two points for you to consider: 1) All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing. 2) Holding your nose to vote is not a bad thing (I made that one up).
I, too, would rather see someone less controversial running for national office than Trump. I was not a Trump supporter in the beginning (As a Texan, I actively supported Ted Cruz), but held my nose when I voted in 2016 - for the good of the country.
I cannot accurately foretell the future with another Trump presidency, but I can assure you another Democrat presidency will seal the fate of our once free nation to become an everlasting, all-powerful socialist oligarchy. Obama's goal to "fundamentally change" the good ol' USA will indeed come true.
DeSantis is a better choice. But he has to win the election. If Trump wants the nomination, and doesn’t get it, millions of MAGA voters will sit out the election, and the Dem nominee, whoever it is, will win. Trumps personal popularity and Dem election manipulation in swing states assure that this will be the result. If Trump gets the nomination, and you decide to sit it out on election day, you, and others like you, will be enabling a Dem win. Yes, Trump has a big ego, and his judgment is not always fine tuned. But that could be said of many past presidents as well. It’s just that before the age of social media they weren’t exposed. The Republican president elected in 2024 should have a cooperative Congress, something Trump didn’t have last time. And Trump has learned something about DC politics from his first time around. Of course if McConnell and McCarthy screw up what should be a red wave in November, and they are definitely capable of that, we’re finished for a long time, maybe forever. Instead of an historic two term president, DeSantis, governor of Florida in the early 21st century, will be forgotten.
The only objective is to remove these psychotic leftists from power. Anyone focused on anything other than electing the best and smartest needs to back away. Personally, I think both Trump and McConnell need to step the hell away. I love President Trump, and hope he backs our next generation of leadership.
So, you're going to not vote in the general election for president if Trump is the nominee? You’re going to stand aside and let Biden win again? Or whomever the Dems put up?
I realize now just how awful Trump is, although I don’t think he would be half so bad if he weren’t being persecuted and prosecuted 24/7 by evil people, just because they hate him, but I’d still take him and all of his unforced errors forever over another term with ANY Democrat, including that wolf in sheep’s clothing from Hawaii.
Okay, well, you know a Republican not voting is a vote for the Democrat. We Republicans have been told to shut up and vote for the disgusting RINOs for decades to prevent Democrats from winning. One thing Trump is not is a RINO. The way I see it, regardless of how awful Trump is, if he is the Republican nominee, we have to vote for him. Particularly since he is not a RINO. And frankly, while I don’t care for his insults to McConnell’s wife, the man just had his own wife’s underwear drawer rifled through by the Democrats. Which is worse? We are lucky he has held his composure as well as he has. I’d be furious beyond belief if that happened to me. Particularly if I had just been President of the United States. I would've been inventing new expletives to use on every turncoat and traitorous politician in DC that approved of the FBI raiding my home, Republican and Democrat. And I think we all know Mitch McConnell enjoyed seeing that happen. He has hated Trump since the day he took office and worked behind the scenes to undermine everything Trump did, except get his SCOTUS nominees through. The fact that McConnell didn’t retire after giving up the Majority leadership to Schumer, the way every other single previous Majority leader has done, with grace, stepping down to let the next person try do do better, proves he is just a power hungry egomaniac like Nancy Pelosi. Sure, it may not help Trump when he gets back into the WH to be on such bad terms with McConnell, but the truth is, it isn’t any worse now than when he tried being nice to McConnell. And who knows, maybe the Turtle will kick the bucket before he gets another shot at Majority leader. We can always hope, right?
This has been a very respectful discuss with a lot of good commentary however the bottom line for me is I will vote for whoever is the republican nominee in the general. To not do so will play into the democrat hands which is what they want and why they continue to attack Trump. I will put my personal feeling and reservations aside in order to try to advance conservatism.
David I realize that pragmatism is sometimes viewed as weakness, but the reality of Dumping Trump if he gets the Nom would most assuredly mean 4 more years of Whomever the Democratic/Socialists throw out there. With Joe Biden talking about the only way to "Save Democracy " is to cozy up to China I don't believe we have any choice but to vote Red no matter how bad a taste it may leave in our mouth.
When one considers ALL Trump was up against: the whole left wing democratic party, all the Wokism, BLM, Marxist, Socialist, 90% of the media, all of the big social media, as well as half the Repukelankin party RINOS, as well as half or more of his own executive branch, 24/7, IT IS EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE WHAT HE GOT ACCOMPLISH AND HOW GREAT HE MADE AMERICA. Think about it! Think about how much better if he would have had some help!
I'm with you David, although I got to the point you just reached quite a bit ago.
Trump is damaged goods, far too damged to ever be elected again, even if he manages to get the nom, (which I'm sure he won't). Most of the damage came at the hands of the MSM, but as you note he's killing himself with the wounds of a thousand self-inflicted paper cuts.
I'd prefer he stick to the sidelines as a "Kingmaker", but he can't even seem to get that right. Mehmet Friggin' Oz?!? I mean, c'mon, man.....
I sincerely thank President Trump for giving us the current SCOTUS, (my singular reason for voting for him), his stellar economy, and his other court appointments, but the man simply cannot hold his tongue or ego in check long enough to stay on task.
DeSantis - Gabbard 2024! Let's get the hot surfer chick to jump sides, as it'll seal the deal.
So...Your Mom & Dad said things that "offended" you. Did you drop or disregard them ? Did you turn out O.K. ? Trump's policies worked out pretty well. I'll take some questionable quotes & "harsh" language to get back to $2.00 gas & a healthy 401k. I support Trump all the way !! How many of you can honestly say that you could withstand the constant barrage of crap he deals with daily & not lose your composure even once ? Like the quote says....GOD does not choose the perfect person...HE chooses the person perfect for the job.
I, too, love what you do, David, but think you're wrong on this, for the reasons cited by Rob and the fact McConnell has proven to be a total crook who regularly sells us out and grasps nothing of what the base (including me) wants. He hates conservatives like me, in fact, and he is a terrible\, terrible image and leader. Yes, he came through on the judges but any good Republican leader should and probably would have done the same. Meanwhile, he takes money from Republicans and uses to fight against principled Republicans in primaries so he can protect the likes of Thad Cochran and Lisa Murkowski. I'm done with corrupt Republicans like him and, yes, I do believe he's a China stooge. Trump is an unequaled disruptor and as much as I like DeSantis, I will definitely support Trump if he's in the game.
McConnell is not disturbed with the Demonrats undoing the American Revolution and destroying the nation. His war is not with them. His war is a factional one to retain power over the Republican Party. He’s perfectly capable of cracking deals with the Democrats to undermine Republican candidates from the America First faction. In fact, he most certainly did it on the 2017 special election to replace Jeff Sessions. McConnell and the GOPe spent millions of dollars slandering and smearing Judge Roy Moore and belong to install a Democrap as senator from Alabama. I forget most of my 2018 and 2020 races, but does anyone think McConnell in 2022 wants Blake Masters (R) to beat Mark Kelly (D) in Arizona? Does anybody think McConnell wants Herschel Walker to win against the extremist Democrap in Georgia? He is supporting outright Murkowski over Tshibaka in Alaska. One can be damned sure he breathed a sigh of relief when the Demoncrap candidate for the Alaska House special election beat Sarah Palin. Anyone thinks he wants Kari Lake or Mastriano to win their governor races in Arizona and Pennsylvania? The answer is that McConnell is perfectly happy for us to live under a one party state with a controlled RINO opposition party enjoying perks, wealth and status. What he cannot abide is a true conservative America First Republican Party pushing him aside.
And, by the way, there were dozens of solid constitutionalist judges that McConnell never allowed a full senate vote on. They were surely held back as a way of pressuring Trump in one way or another. When Trump left office there were over 60 judgeships with active nominees, including several appellate judges, that McConnell never called a vote for.
Dave, I love you, man. I respect your opinions, and I am an avid reader. But, I think you’re wrong on this.
The GOPe with McConnell at the head controlled all of Trump’s access to confirmations. McConnell held up in committee hundreds of nominees for months and years. For 4 years, McConnell did not allow a formal Senate recess, holding pro forma sessions every three days when the Senate was on vacation in order to prevent Trump from making recess appointments. Every single confirmation required the McConnell appointed senate committee heads to approve of and also required McConnell to schedule a senate confirmation vote on. And, every single nomination down to assistant deputy director of janitorial services at the Department of Commerce was the result of negotiation between Trump (or his team) and McConnell. McConnell controlled the access for Trump to get any of his own people confirmed. And McConnell and Ryan controlled any legislation from being brought to the floor.
When he first took office, there were two paths for Trump to tread:
1) The Bannon path of taking on the entire Republican Party head on. In 2017, this path certainly did not seem likely to get the Trump agenda passed.
2) The Rinse Penise path of attempting to get the GOPe to join forces with MAGA for the good of the country and the good of the electoral future of the GOP. The idea was that the success of the Trump agenda would convince a reluctant GOPe to essentially convert to MAGA out of the principle that supporting the strong horse is a path to future success. They didn’t need to believe ideologically in MAGA, but it did seem at that time that it would be to their political benefit.
Of course, Trump eventually chose the second path in an attempt to get the GOPe on board. This entailed appointing Elaine Chau as Secretary of Transportation. It seemed like a small price to pay to encourage McConnell to cooperate.
As it turned out, the GOPe is irredeemably corrupt. They duped Trump and all of us with constant promises to cooperate on the agenda they themselves had campaigned on.
Now, Trump is no longer under any illusion that these GOPe guys are on our team. Personally, I want the proverbial bulldog in a China shop, and I am willing to entertain boorish and offensive behavior to get such a person. I want McConnell gone from his position of obstruction, and he isn’t leaving with grace and under his own free will. Trump is taking the fight to McConnell, and it’s an important fight that the future of our country depends upon. We need an actual national Conservative party rather than the Uniparty with a controlled opposition. How do you propose we get there without upsetting a few apple carts?
DeSantis is great, but he hasn’t faced the crucible of 365/24/7/60/60 nonstop attack. He hasn’t yet been betrayed by his own party seeking to undermine the very agenda they campaigned on. If he’s the GOP candidate, I’ll happily vote for him. If Trump is the candidate, I’ll happily vote for Trump. But, I will simply NOT be voting for a GOPe approved candidate no matter how urbane his manners are.
Sorry, at some point we all have to stop excusing this childish, juvenile, frankly stupid behavior. At some point we all have to hold Trump responsible for all the thousands of horrible personnel decisions he made. No one else made them. He made them
Trump, no one else, elevated Anthony Fauci to the high priest of COVID. Not Biden, Trump.
Trump, no one else, signed those multi-trillion dollar COVID bills. No one forged his signature. Trump has zero room to criticize McConnell or anyone else for spending too much money.
Trump, no one else, holds regular interviews with enemies of the people like Maggie Hagerman and Bob Woodward, because he craves the attention. He's pathological in this regard.
Trump, no one else, appointed Christopher Wray to head the FBI.
Trump, no one else, appointed Jeff Sessions and Bill Barr to be Attorney General.
Trump, no one else, did all those things and so many more.
Again, he was, despite all of those thousands of unforced errors, still a vastly better option than Hillary Clinton.
But he is not a better option than Ron DeSantis. Not at all. And he's also going to be as old in 2024 as Biden was when he was sort of elected in 2020.
He's too old and too juvenile, and too prone to shooting himself in his own damn foot for me to support again. Sorry.
Dave, you more than most people should know that Wray was foisted on Trump. You must surely remember the hysterical atmosphere in 2017 when Trump fired Comey and half of the GOPe senate would have been on board with voting to remove Trump from office should they GOPe House decide to impeach him. Surely, you remember the public statements of several Judiciary Committee senators that Trump will NOT get to place his own man at the head of the FBI. Wray was McConnell’s man through and through before Trump or any of us quite realized how fully committed McConnell was to sabotaging the America First agenda.
I don’t know about you, but I was originally ecstatic that Trump had chosen Sessions, who seemed a top America First senator, as Attorney General. His subsequent betrayal of Trump (and us) didn’t take long to manifest itself as he recused himself from running his own department. At the time, several Senate Judiciary Committee members publicly stated that they would NOT be confirming any new Attorney General that year should Trump fire Sessions.
I don’t remember how you felt about it at the time, but I remember swallowing the cock and bull story about Barr’s integrity, and how he was going to get to the bottom of the Spygate scandal. That illusion lasted for quite some time before I lost faith.
There are a lot of snakes on our midst. It’s frequently hard to distinguish them in advance. DeSantis would chose some Deep State slime bags, too, because there are just so many of them around.
Of course Trump made numerous errors. Pushing that damned vaxx is the worst of them. Not preparing fully for the expected election fraud is another.
Trump absolutely does have standing to criticize McConnell. Because, while Trump may make errors, he has America’s interests at heart. McConnell does not. He is a schemer. He schemes with the media, with the Democrats, with the RINOs, with Big Business and occasionally with the CCP to keep his RINO faction in charge of the Republican Party. He most certainly does not have our interests at heart.
I like Trump because warts and all he is unequivocally on our side. He might make mistakes, even big mistakes. But they are not deliberate. He’s authentic. What you see is what you get. His biggest downside for 2024 is his age. He is full of vigor now, but if he is elected, on his 4th year in office he will be 82 years old. He likely will not have the same vigor by then.
DeSantis is a great governor. He is serving as a role model for other Red states. In our current situation, I would not underestimate the need for defiant state government.
As a newcomer, Trump had arrayed against him all the world media, the Deep State, even his own party. The fire was turned on him to a level never seen before in history. Even so, he was remarkably effective on many fronts. Should DeSantis win election as president in 2024, he will be forced into the crucible of fire. He will also make errors.
Finally, none of us realized before Trump just how corrupt the Deep State and all the institutions actually are. Trump has the effect of making them reveal themselves to us. They have tipped their hand now, and that allows many of us to see clearly and fight back. If that were all that Trump accomplished, then that would already be a great thing.
Trump, the naive, non-politician did indeed make mistakes, but his message is more important than ever. I hope he has the good sense to back off and let DeSantis carry the MAGA torch.
I hope DeSantis does NOT run, keep him as our governor. Your are just being ridiculously jealous. So if he does not run, then what you not going to support Trump?
Everyone he appointed was on the advice of Washington insiders and being a political novice, he listened to them. He told Hannnity that next time around he won’t do that. Using the slur however is another thing, the usual unforced error giving ammo to his enemies to use against him.
Trying to excuse all of Trump's horrible appointments as being someone else's fault is just extremely tiresome and I don't really have time or patience to entertain that line of reasoning.
This guy makes more unforced errors than 42 year-old Jimmy Connors.
Enough.
I'm curious--which part of this statement of Trump's was false? And do you really believe he knew the extent of Chao's CCP connections when he nominated her? Do you believe McConnell has America's interests first & foremost or does he only care about saving the establishment? Do you not believe that Trump has exposed the filthy undergrowth in DC? or would you prefer he not do so?
I wouldn't mind exposing the undergrowth, just without the racial slurs.
And again, claiming none of Trumps appointees were his own fault is ludicrous and not worthy of discussion here.
David,
I respectfully ask you to reconsider your decision to not vote for Trump if he is the Republican nominee.
I have two points for you to consider: 1) All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing. 2) Holding your nose to vote is not a bad thing (I made that one up).
I, too, would rather see someone less controversial running for national office than Trump. I was not a Trump supporter in the beginning (As a Texan, I actively supported Ted Cruz), but held my nose when I voted in 2016 - for the good of the country.
I cannot accurately foretell the future with another Trump presidency, but I can assure you another Democrat presidency will seal the fate of our once free nation to become an everlasting, all-powerful socialist oligarchy. Obama's goal to "fundamentally change" the good ol' USA will indeed come true.
DeSantis is a better choice. But he has to win the election. If Trump wants the nomination, and doesn’t get it, millions of MAGA voters will sit out the election, and the Dem nominee, whoever it is, will win. Trumps personal popularity and Dem election manipulation in swing states assure that this will be the result. If Trump gets the nomination, and you decide to sit it out on election day, you, and others like you, will be enabling a Dem win. Yes, Trump has a big ego, and his judgment is not always fine tuned. But that could be said of many past presidents as well. It’s just that before the age of social media they weren’t exposed. The Republican president elected in 2024 should have a cooperative Congress, something Trump didn’t have last time. And Trump has learned something about DC politics from his first time around. Of course if McConnell and McCarthy screw up what should be a red wave in November, and they are definitely capable of that, we’re finished for a long time, maybe forever. Instead of an historic two term president, DeSantis, governor of Florida in the early 21st century, will be forgotten.
The only objective is to remove these psychotic leftists from power. Anyone focused on anything other than electing the best and smartest needs to back away. Personally, I think both Trump and McConnell need to step the hell away. I love President Trump, and hope he backs our next generation of leadership.
So, you're going to not vote in the general election for president if Trump is the nominee? You’re going to stand aside and let Biden win again? Or whomever the Dems put up?
I realize now just how awful Trump is, although I don’t think he would be half so bad if he weren’t being persecuted and prosecuted 24/7 by evil people, just because they hate him, but I’d still take him and all of his unforced errors forever over another term with ANY Democrat, including that wolf in sheep’s clothing from Hawaii.
Yea, I would simply not vote. I wouldn't vote for a damn Democrat to clean my damn toilets.
Okay, well, you know a Republican not voting is a vote for the Democrat. We Republicans have been told to shut up and vote for the disgusting RINOs for decades to prevent Democrats from winning. One thing Trump is not is a RINO. The way I see it, regardless of how awful Trump is, if he is the Republican nominee, we have to vote for him. Particularly since he is not a RINO. And frankly, while I don’t care for his insults to McConnell’s wife, the man just had his own wife’s underwear drawer rifled through by the Democrats. Which is worse? We are lucky he has held his composure as well as he has. I’d be furious beyond belief if that happened to me. Particularly if I had just been President of the United States. I would've been inventing new expletives to use on every turncoat and traitorous politician in DC that approved of the FBI raiding my home, Republican and Democrat. And I think we all know Mitch McConnell enjoyed seeing that happen. He has hated Trump since the day he took office and worked behind the scenes to undermine everything Trump did, except get his SCOTUS nominees through. The fact that McConnell didn’t retire after giving up the Majority leadership to Schumer, the way every other single previous Majority leader has done, with grace, stepping down to let the next person try do do better, proves he is just a power hungry egomaniac like Nancy Pelosi. Sure, it may not help Trump when he gets back into the WH to be on such bad terms with McConnell, but the truth is, it isn’t any worse now than when he tried being nice to McConnell. And who knows, maybe the Turtle will kick the bucket before he gets another shot at Majority leader. We can always hope, right?
This has been a very respectful discuss with a lot of good commentary however the bottom line for me is I will vote for whoever is the republican nominee in the general. To not do so will play into the democrat hands which is what they want and why they continue to attack Trump. I will put my personal feeling and reservations aside in order to try to advance conservatism.
David I realize that pragmatism is sometimes viewed as weakness, but the reality of Dumping Trump if he gets the Nom would most assuredly mean 4 more years of Whomever the Democratic/Socialists throw out there. With Joe Biden talking about the only way to "Save Democracy " is to cozy up to China I don't believe we have any choice but to vote Red no matter how bad a taste it may leave in our mouth.
Stay on the Red Wave David, we need you there.
When one considers ALL Trump was up against: the whole left wing democratic party, all the Wokism, BLM, Marxist, Socialist, 90% of the media, all of the big social media, as well as half the Repukelankin party RINOS, as well as half or more of his own executive branch, 24/7, IT IS EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE WHAT HE GOT ACCOMPLISH AND HOW GREAT HE MADE AMERICA. Think about it! Think about how much better if he would have had some help!
He was also up against endless arbitrary District and Appellate Court decisions restricting his ability to implement his policies.
OK, but why be an a-hole about it?
It wont matter anyway, by the time the screwballs in DC and NATO start WWIII. Hopefully Biden will get lost again and the Russians will get him.
I'm with you David, although I got to the point you just reached quite a bit ago.
Trump is damaged goods, far too damged to ever be elected again, even if he manages to get the nom, (which I'm sure he won't). Most of the damage came at the hands of the MSM, but as you note he's killing himself with the wounds of a thousand self-inflicted paper cuts.
I'd prefer he stick to the sidelines as a "Kingmaker", but he can't even seem to get that right. Mehmet Friggin' Oz?!? I mean, c'mon, man.....
I sincerely thank President Trump for giving us the current SCOTUS, (my singular reason for voting for him), his stellar economy, and his other court appointments, but the man simply cannot hold his tongue or ego in check long enough to stay on task.
DeSantis - Gabbard 2024! Let's get the hot surfer chick to jump sides, as it'll seal the deal.
Hopefully he steps aside and Desantis runs